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Tork



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:59 am    Post subject: Game 8221 Reply with quote

It my turn but i can not do anything but move shrimp.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

delete game please
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! That's some board! never seen that before.
Without giving any info away to your opponent, I'm assuming that you have the necessary Polyp Tiles and Lava Cubes to be able to make a move, it's just that the game won't let you ?
Will it let you consume a shrimp ?
Is this the first turn where the board is completely full ? If so, I'm wondering if you've found a bug Sad
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taraba



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually that's a missed end game situation.

"The game ends immediately when one of the following events occur: 3. If there is nowhere left to play a polyp tile (highly unlikely)."

The code must not be checking that in the middle of your action and it probably won't let you stop placing tiles because you told it you wanted to play x amount and have only played x-2 or something like that.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yes. I's so unlikely that I'd forgotten it was an end-game event. Well spotted.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We didnt and still dont have much of a clue on what we were doing. I was playing my wife. Anything I need to do or will this show up as a abandons game?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The code actually never checks for this ending condition (it should very rarely occur, if at all). I will end it and score it "by hand" in the next few days.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, make that "now"...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we're in this situation in game 18234.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be a nuisance, but can someone please take a look at this?

Thanks!
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HappyProle
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have looked at it. What exactly do you want me to do? Can you not play anywhere? Is it frozen?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I think we have reached one of the game ending conditions, but the game has not ended. Can we have this one ended and scored by hand as was done for game 8221?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So neither of you can play a polyp tile somewhere that would consume another polyp tile?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that's where I wasn't sure about the rules interpretation. In game 8221 there were a lot of places where somebody could play by consuming another polyp tile, but since all of the spaces were occupied the game was ended. The situation here is basically the same. Having never been in this situation before, I wasn't complete sure how the rule was interpreted, but the precedent seems to be that having all spaces occupied counts as an end-game event.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That game also was played by relative newbies.. so I think there was more to the decision of ending it than just a rules interpretation.

Regardless of what happened with that game, I don't think it's really splitting hairs to say that if you can play a polyp tile (even if you have to consume another to do so) then the end-game condition of "nowhere to place a polyp tile" isn't met.
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