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| Which game would you most like to see added to SBW? |
| Domaine |
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8% |
[ 15 ] |
| Dune |
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12% |
[ 23 ] |
| Goa |
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22% |
[ 43 ] |
| In the Shadow of the Emperor |
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8% |
[ 15 ] |
| Magna Grecia |
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5% |
[ 10 ] |
| Maharaja |
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7% |
[ 14 ] |
| Primordial Soup |
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8% |
[ 15 ] |
| Samurai |
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13% |
[ 25 ] |
| San Marco |
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7% |
[ 14 ] |
| Torres |
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6% |
[ 13 ] |
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rseulow
Joined: 04 May 04
Posts: 240
Location: New York, NY
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 Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: Alhambra |
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| Alhambra: An excellent fit for the style of this site. |
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Mabi
Joined: 13 May 04
Posts: 36
Location: Italy
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| HappyProle wrote: | | In light of the comments about Caylus being too long, I thought I should point out that Goa (currently leading the poll) would also be a very long game. |
I agree. Goa would work very well in PBW if a player could make all three actions in the same turn. I remember I read somewhere that this is how it was originally designed by Dorn, and it was changed during development in order to reduce downtime. But I have no idea what other changes would be necessary to re-balance the game, and in any case it would be different than 'standard' Goa.
I'm a bit surprised by your numbers about Amun-Re: it would seem that 180 turns in 5-players is too high, but the game works extremely well.
Now, if someone could figure out how many turns are needed for Princes of Florence... |
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HappyProle
SBW Developer
Joined: 28 Oct 05
Posts: 409
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Taking all three actions at once would certainly help. If decide to do Goa we'll have to see how that would play.
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I think the Amun Re numbers seem higher than one might expect because of all the little extra things like making offerings, taking rewards and collecting income. Also, in my calculations I estimated the number of player-turns for auctions at 2N per round, which is probably on the high side for 5 players. |
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freduk
Joined: 18 Jan 06
Posts: 433
Location: Bristol, UK
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: one vote |
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Oasis or Alhambra ? Well, if I can only have one vote  then Oasis just sneaks it for me, but only because I'm more likely to play Alhambra in real life (my usual play-group is 6 players, Oasis only supports 3-5) |
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fteplin
Joined: 30 Aug 05
Posts: 70
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Numbers of player turns should definitely be a factor in consideration. Some quick estimates:
Maharaja
2-player: 45
3-player: 70
4-player: 95
5-player: 120
Primordial Soup
3-player: 100
4-player: 130
Samurai
random setup (advanced setup)
2-player: 35 (55)
3-player: 50 (80)
4-player: 70 (110)
Torres
2-player: 25
3-player: 30
4-player: 40
All these seem pretty reasonable for game length. Anyone care to estimate for the other games in the poll? |
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chaosbreaker
Joined: 25 Feb 05
Posts: 16
Location: Los Angeles, USA
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Mabi wrote: |
...Now, if someone could figure out how many turns are needed for Princes of Florence... |
About 55 turns according to my completed game. There are more completed games if you want to count them. http://www.fwtwr.com/fwtwr/princes_florence/index.htm
The auction used is a simutaneous english proxy auction like on ebay. Thus it only take one turn to auction off an item.
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chaosbreaker
Joined: 25 Feb 05
Posts: 16
Location: Los Angeles, USA
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Since Alhambra and Torres is already PBWed, why not do a game that is not already PBW implemented?
http://www.boiteajeux.net/
torres
alhambra
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seamusk
Joined: 05 Feb 05
Posts: 21
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: true enough |
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although i haven't gotten into that site I do think it benefits the gaming community to pbw something new. I really like San Marco (consider me a SM lobbyist).
| chaosbreaker wrote: | Since Alhambra and Torres is already PBWed, why not do a game that is not already PBW implemented?
http://www.boiteajeux.net/
torres
alhambra
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TMJJS
Joined: 17 Nov 04
Posts: 70
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| chaosbreaker wrote: | Since Alhambra and Torres is already PBWed, why not do a game that is not already PBW implemented?
http://www.boiteajeux.net/
torres
alhambra
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It only counts if you can figure out the site and actually play  I have been trying for months (on & off) to figure out that site with no luck - why can't everything be as easy as SBW? |
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smcilhatton
Joined: 23 Jan 06
Posts: 4
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Age of Steam
no, wait.. Struggle of Empires
no, no, Age of Steam..
arrrgghhh
ok, given that it's easier for me to get a face-to-face game of AoS than it is for SoE I'll vote for SoE... (although Dune is also VERY tempting) |
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benji68
Joined: 03 Oct 05
Posts: 7
Location: Switzerland
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Definitely Age of Steam. But I don't think Mr. Borer would ever agree to something like that...
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MarkJohnson
Joined: 02 Apr 04
Posts: 7
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: I can pick only one?! |
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| So many good choices. I went with San Marco, but consider this a write-in vote for Entdecker, too. |
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fteplin
Joined: 30 Aug 05
Posts: 70
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:04 am Post subject: Re: I can pick only one?! |
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| MarkJohnson wrote: | | So many good choices. I went with San Marco, but consider this a write-in vote for Entdecker, too. |
For simplicity and clarity I'm trying to have everyone get just one vote. Makes the choosing a lot tougher! |
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Nestalawe
Joined: 21 Oct 05
Posts: 7
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| Count me down as a vote for Struggle Of Empires! |
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dilsonfilho
Joined: 19 Nov 05
Posts: 4
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Caylus would not make a good game for this site. I think that Traumfabrik, Maharaja, Australia, Mexica or Industria are very good options. |
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