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Honesty Pays - Think Before You Steal - 5 Player Standings
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Gaditus



Joined: 05 Feb 07
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Location: Canterbury, UK

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Honesty Pays - Think Before You Steal - 5 Player Standings Reply with quote

10/30

4 3 1 0 0 0 cpsof95
3 2 0 1 0 0 kwojtasz
2 2 0 0 0 0 IBX
3 1 1 0 0 1 rseulow
2 1 0 1 0 0 Kanga
2 1 0 1 0 0 docaction
4 0 3 1 0 0 pkwolf54
3 0 1 1 1 0 NoMoreCheese
3 0 1 1 0 1 AngelaK.
2 0 1 1 0 0 BryJones
3 0 1 0 1 1 t_o_m9
2 0 1 0 1 0 Dobinator
2 0 0 1 1 0 flaviorj
2 0 0 1 0 1 toutoune
1 0 0 1 0 0 TMJJS
3 0 0 0 3 0 Bkruppa
2 0 0 0 2 0 HighwayStar
1 0 0 0 1 0 kekeweb
2 0 0 0 0 2 Wolfpack
2 0 0 0 0 2 Payton3434
1 0 0 0 0 1 ats2630
1 0 0 0 0 1 Gaditus
0 0 0 0 0 0 Pompkin
0 0 0 0 0 0 lindalait
0 0 0 0 0 0 dawnuk
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Gaditus



Joined: 05 Feb 07
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Location: Canterbury, UK

PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

25/30

5 4 0 1 0 0 Kanga
6 3 1 2 0 0 docaction
4 3 1 0 0 0 cpsof95
5 2 1 1 0 1 rseulow
4 2 1 1 0 0 kwojtasz
5 2 0 3 0 0 IBX
5 2 0 2 1 0 flaviorj
6 2 0 0 3 1 HighwayStar
6 1 3 2 0 0 pkwolf54
6 1 2 1 2 0 Dobinator
6 1 1 1 2 1 t_o_m9
5 1 1 1 1 1 toutoune
4 1 1 0 1 1 lindalait
5 0 3 1 1 0 NoMoreCheese
6 0 2 2 0 2 AngelaK.
4 0 2 0 1 1 Gaditus
5 0 1 2 1 1 BryJones
4 0 1 2 1 0 TMJJS
4 0 1 2 0 1 dawnuk
5 0 1 0 4 0 Bkruppa
6 0 1 0 2 3 Payton3434
3 0 1 0 0 2 Pompkin
6 0 0 1 2 3 kekeweb
5 0 0 0 2 3 Wolfpack
5 0 0 0 1 4 ats2630
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t_o_m9



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stole in the game you said I won, I believe. Embarassed
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Gaditus



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

25/30

5 4 0 1 0 0 Kanga
6 3 1 2 0 0 docaction
4 3 1 0 0 0 cpsof95
5 2 1 1 0 1 rseulow
4 2 1 1 0 0 kwojtasz
5 2 0 3 0 0 IBX
5 2 0 2 1 0 flaviorj
6 2 0 0 3 1 HighwayStar
6 1 4 1 0 0 pkwolf54
6 1 2 1 2 0 Dobinator
5 1 1 1 1 1 toutoune
4 1 1 0 1 1 lindalait
3 1 0 0 0 2 Pompkin
5 0 3 1 1 0 NoMoreCheese
6 0 2 2 0 2 AngelaK.
4 0 2 0 1 1 Gaditus
5 0 1 2 1 1 BryJones
4 0 1 2 1 0 TMJJS
4 0 1 2 0 1 dawnuk
6 0 1 1 3 1 t_o_m9
6 0 1 1 1 3 Payton3434
5 0 1 0 4 0 Bkruppa
6 0 0 1 2 3 kekeweb
5 0 0 0 2 3 Wolfpack
5 0 0 0 1 4 ats2630

Adjusted to allow for t_o_m9's honesty (and dishonesty).

I have noted when told about stealing, but have not checked individual game logs to confirm. If/when you have stolen please pm me.
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Rebelslayer



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Location: Adelaide, Australia

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honest certainly didn't pay that time tom! Embarassed
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Kanga



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Location: Moe, Victoria, Australia

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought I'd go back and check the game log of the game I was in.

To my surprise I discovered in the last game I won =

http://www.spielbyweb.com/game.php?games_id=43216

I stole in round 4, but nobody, including me, noticed or commented...

It certainly didn't affect the sacrifice and the 4 extra gold I got would have been at the expense of a power card, but rules are rules, so toutoune gets a bonus

Embarassed Embarassed Rolling Eyes Shocked Sad
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Gaditus



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

25/30

6 3 1 2 0 0 docaction
4 3 1 0 0 0 cpsof95
5 3 0 2 0 0 Kanga
5 2 1 1 0 1 rseulow
4 2 1 1 0 0 kwojtasz
5 2 0 3 0 0 IBX
5 2 0 2 1 0 flaviorj
5 2 0 1 1 1 toutoune
6 2 0 0 3 1 HighwayStar
6 1 4 1 0 0 pkwolf54
6 1 2 1 2 0 Dobinator
4 1 1 0 1 1 lindalait
3 1 0 0 0 2 Pompkin
5 0 3 1 1 0 NoMoreCheese
6 0 2 2 0 2 AngelaK.
4 0 2 1 0 1 dawnuk
4 0 2 0 1 1 Gaditus
5 0 1 2 1 1 BryJones
4 0 1 2 1 0 TMJJS
6 0 1 1 3 1 t_o_m9
6 0 1 1 1 3 Payton3434
5 0 1 0 4 0 Bkruppa
6 0 0 1 2 3 kekeweb
5 0 0 0 2 3 Wolfpack
5 0 0 0 1 4 ats2630

Updated again.

I will check the logs of all the games when I get time (before the final table is produced), but feel free to point out any lapses in the meantime.

So far those caught with their fingers in the offering plate are

01 Kanga
05 rseulow
08 docaction
09 Gaditus Embarassed
11 toutoune
13 t_o_m9
17 pkwolf, wolfpack
27 Pompkin
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t_o_m9



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Location: Lakeville, MN

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you open up the logs and just a Ctrl-F search for "stole" it shows up right away
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Gaditus



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tom

I used that out when I checked Kanga's game.

In firefox the search remains in the toolbar, so I can just about face checking them all now!
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Gaditus



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have now checked all the logs and found one more case of thievery, which did not effect the positions. Hence the latest table I posted is correct.
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Gaditus



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

29/30

6 5 1 0 0 0 cpsof95
6 3 1 2 0 0 docaction
5 3 0 2 0 0 Kanga
6 2 3 1 0 0 kwojtasz
5 2 1 1 0 1 rseulow
5 2 1 0 0 2 Pompkin
6 2 0 3 1 0 flaviorj
6 2 0 3 0 1 IBX
6 2 0 2 1 1 toutoune
6 2 0 0 3 1 HighwayStar
6 1 4 1 0 0 pkwolf54
6 1 2 1 2 0 Dobinator
6 1 2 0 1 2 Gaditus
5 1 1 0 1 2 lindalait
6 0 3 2 1 0 NoMoreCheese
6 0 3 1 1 1 dawnuk
6 0 2 2 0 2 AngelaK.
6 0 1 2 2 1 BryJones
6 0 1 2 3 0 TMJJS
6 0 1 1 4 0 Bkruppa
6 0 1 1 3 1 t_o_m9
6 0 1 1 1 3 Payton3434
6 0 0 1 2 3 kekeweb
5 0 0 0 2 3 Wolfpack
6 0 0 0 1 5 ats2630

It's all done to the final game in which rseulow has stolen. If Pompkin can finish in the top two he will take the final final spot. It could all come down to points lost by.

Grats to the finalists, especially the debutant kwojtasz.
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Gaditus



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Final table

6 5 1 0 0 0 cpsof95
6 4 0 2 0 0 Kanga
6 3 1 2 0 0 docaction
6 2 3 1 0 0 kwojtasz
6 2 1 1 0 2 rseulow (-47)

6 2 1 1 0 2 Pompkin (-76)
6 2 0 3 1 0 flaviorj
6 2 0 3 0 1 IBX
6 2 0 2 1 1 toutoune
6 2 0 0 3 1 HighwayStar
6 1 4 1 0 0 pkwolf54
6 1 2 1 2 0 Dobinator
6 1 2 0 1 2 Gaditus
6 1 2 0 1 2 lindalait
6 0 3 2 1 0 NoMoreCheese
6 0 3 1 1 1 dawnuk
6 0 2 2 0 2 AngelaK.
6 0 1 2 3 0 TMJJS
6 0 1 2 2 1 BryJones
6 0 1 1 4 0 Bkruppa
6 0 1 1 3 1 t_o_m9
6 0 1 1 1 3 Payton3434
6 0 0 1 2 3 kekeweb
6 0 0 0 3 3 Wolfpack
6 0 0 0 1 5 ats2630

Fifth and last spot in the final goes to rseulow on points lost by. Even though he stole twice (costing 16 points) rseulow's losing margin was less than Pompkin's. Pompkin also stole, in round six so losing all his points, but even without this, still had a worse losing margin.

Hence the final

Think Before You Steal!!! Final (password final)
cpsof95, Kanga, docaction, kwojtasz, rseulow

Good luck and remember to keep those fingers out of the offering!

Any comments on the variant - I am still trying to get over stealing in the 3 player final, all that hard work wasted in one moment of madness!
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kwojtasz



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the accolades, though it was tough getting to the finals. I found that everyone plays a strong game in these tournaments.

As for the variant, it was different. It made temples alittle safer purchases and the camels were more risky. I did have to catch myself a few times when a steal bid was perfect to just bid 1. Overall it keeps the game fresh and makes you think more about different strategies again based on the different rules.
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Kanga



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Location: Moe, Victoria, Australia

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this was a good format. It made evaluation of the provinces far more interesting, and I'd play it again very happily.

The 8 point penalty was about right I think.
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rseulow



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. -8 works.

I like the variant - it changes the game just enough.
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