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ginolard · Joined: 08 Apr 05 Posts: 1

I know there has been some resistance to automating actions on here but why cannot SOME actions be automated?

For example, is there any reason why players HAVE to "click to receive income" if they don't have an "8 Gold" or "Harvest Increase" card. If there's no way for them to change their income, what's the point of waiting for a player to interact with the game? Just give them the gold and move on to the next player.

Knave · Joined: 28 Jun 08 Posts: 258

I think the reasoning was that some people may not want their opponents to know that they have a card (that they elected not to use) to change their income.

There is a way around that of course, make the income phase simultaneous, I forget if there were any objections to that.

Darius van Duyn · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:22 am Post subject:

Income phase is makin me go berserk as I always see those guys in front of me with Dakhla playing 8gold cards, but when I had Dakhla, I didn´t have 8gold for ages..... Mad

Carmilla · Joined: 13 Jul 08 Posts: 70 Location: Brooklyn, NY

8 gold -- I'd almost forgotten those existed ... Crying or Very sad

To my surprise, I had a situation recently where simultaneous income might have made a difference. I was debating whether to use Harvest Increase in that round (where it would have had marginal benefit), or saving it for a later round, when it might have had more. Since I was last that round, it actually helped to see what my neighbors did before I committed myself.

gische · Joined: 12 Oct 05 Posts: 186 Location: San Carlos, CA

I would envision a simultaneous income phase where anyone other than the first player could click a "wait for the players before me to act" button, which would remove the active marker for that player until it was properly their turn. In that manner, we could handle the case where it matters while accelerating the game for the majority of the times when it doesn't.

Dobinator · Joined: 18 Jul 07 Posts: 383 Location: North Carolina, USA

Unless two people clicked it, in which case the space-time continuum rifts.

gische · Joined: 12 Oct 05 Posts: 186 Location: San Carlos, CA

Montu · Joined: 14 Nov 05 Posts: 36

HighwayStar · Joined: 09 Apr 04 Posts: 69

Why not add a checkbox to the top of each player's screen that says "Auto play income phase" (or something similar). If the player checks this box, their income phase is automated if they don't have an income card. This checkbox is always reset to unchecked after each income phase resolution to ensure that no player accidentally lets it stay checked. This means skipping each income phase is a positive choice by each player and can't be done by accident. Therefore, I see no downside to this solution other than it takes somebody some time to program...

freduk · Joined: 18 Jan 06 Posts: 433 Location: Bristol, UK

My 2-penneth...
firstly, any game automation should only be done when it reveals no information about a player's hand. In this case, only when that player has no cards, not simply when they have no applicable cards.
Secondly, and more importantly, I'd much rather see a new game, than very minor improvements to an existing game. I can live with having to wait for other players to collect income, if that meant another game was to arrive sooner.

Not every player on this site feels the need to rush games through in the shortest possible time.

Knave · Joined: 28 Jun 08 Posts: 258

stargate · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject:

my 2 cents
I agree with freduk 100 %
including his small font comment Smile

I would add >> that a redo feature added to the "Buy Resources" phase
would be the FIX most of us would like to see

Bkruppa · Joined: 08 Nov 05 Posts: 241 Location: Fremont, Ca, USA

I must say that its comforting to see how little the discussions have changed in the years I have been on here. I'm fairly sure that this same discussion was the same one that I first read, and ironically, Stargate "guided" me the same way he did today.
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t_o_m9 · Joined: 14 Apr 06 Posts: 318 Location: Lakeville, MN

Many times I have 8 gold and chose not to play it, waiting for another round. Likewise with harvest increase, and then saving it for later. I see far more errors coming from autoplaying cards. Likewise, money at the end of the game is alot of points and knowing if someone else doesn't have a card in a big advantage.

Rebelslayer · Joined: 17 Jan 06 Posts: 298 Location: Adelaide, Australia

Can I get my name added to the Stargate Freduk etc list???

Its a bit sad to have to admit I even agree with him about the fix buying resorces ... my first 100 games = no mistakes ... in the last dozen I have killed 2 games ... one 4 farmers instead of 0, the other 5 instead of 0 !!!!!